第四季给我的感觉是从第三季的阴郁里走出来一些,从predestined feebleness和destined tragedy到现实的冲突和世俗的困惑。
Diana纵使有她的私心,但Charles真的令人恶心透顶了,巨婴的完美代表。
很多人不喜欢这一季对Thatcher的诠释,原因不外乎拿真实录像与Gillian的表演做比较得出的“不像”。
毕竟不是纪录片,我认为改编电视剧给出的启示远不来自“像”。
也许电视剧塑造这样的Thatcher就是旨在反映blue blood和中产精英因为权力来源的分歧而产生的不可调和的矛盾,一种up in the air和down to earth的对抗。
第八集的正面交锋尤其精彩。
可能因为自己的软弱,我很欣赏本剧塑造的Thatcher形象,有unbearable的瑕疵,但更多是钦佩。
相反,对Queen越来越不喜欢了,如果她的冷漠、固化、不负责任代表了王室的一切品质,那还是希望王室早日gg吧。
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The struggle Margaret was suffering and the contradiction with herself resonate every time with me. She desired for freedom yet wasn’t willing to give up her privilege,then she turned to materialism,indulging herself into addiction and fantasy.I really thoroughly love the individuality and character she had showcased.Her story shouldn’t be eclipsed by diana’s.
这两集的时间线以马岛战争前后贯穿下来,核心人物便是撒切尔夫人。
第四集 Favourites 最爱1. 撒切尔的宠儿撒切尔最爱的孩子是儿子马克。
剧中的撒切尔对此十分坦诚1951年,撒切尔夫人(1925-2013)与丈夫丹尼斯·撒切尔(1915-2003)结婚,并在1953年诞下一对龙凤胎,马克和卡洛儿。
撒切尔的儿子马克1982年,撒切尔夫人的儿子,马克·撒切尔参见巴黎达喀尔汽车拉力赛(Dakar Rally),曾在撒哈拉沙漠(Sahara Desert)一度失踪。
达喀尔拉力赛,是一个每年都会举行的专业越野拉力赛,事实上这是一个远离公路的耐力赛,1979年开幕,举办至今。
比赛对车手是否为职业选手并无限制,80%左右的参赛者都为业余选手。
儿子被救后仍自鸣得意2. 福克兰战争(马岛战争)此时,撒切尔已上任三年,通货膨胀达到12%,三百万人失业。
引得女王训斥1982年4月,阿根廷的军政府入侵福克兰群岛(阿根廷称之为马尔维纳斯群岛)。
福克兰群岛阿根廷自1830年代以来便声称拥有福克兰群岛的主权,因而一直与英国发生纠纷。
内阁对发起战争有支持有反对 在入侵发生不久,玛格丽特·撒切尔便指派英国皇家海军重夺群岛,福克兰群岛战争爆发。
光把士兵送过去就要三周1982年6月,英国战胜阿根廷,夺回群岛,重申主权,使英国国内一时间因为撒切尔夫人而重燃爱国热诚,而她的声望亦由谷底反弹。
Godspeed!这里还展现了女王和首相的从政治立场而影响到的个人哲学,前者无为而治,后者霹雳手段。
撒切尔表示不采取外交途径3. 女王的宠儿菲利普的宠儿是安妮,而女王对四个孩子进行了一一面谈,她的最爱是二子安德鲁。
安德鲁与一少女女王的幺子爱德华,竟然也被送去了菲利普和查尔斯去的那个学校,戈登斯托恩(Gordonstoun),显然他在这所学校比他哥哥更能应对。
爱德华王子此时一年拿着2万英镑的王室津贴安妮此时已与马克·菲利浦斯1973年结婚,并育有一子一女。
此段婚姻并不顺利,公主和Sergeant Cross发生私情。
剧中的安妮对戴安娜有些小不满二儿子安德鲁此时身在海军,和母亲吃饭时还讲了未成年少女被“艺术”的故事。
女王和安德鲁吃午饭不得不佩服编剧皮特·摩根(Peter Mogan),很多事情毕竟无法直接挑明,单靠对话和台词就能暗含和映射很多信息。
对美国亿万富豪爱泼斯坦(Jeffrey Epstein)的调查,也让其生前好友安德鲁王陷入X侵丑闻。
19年11月,安德鲁王子宣布将不再履行王室公务。
爱泼斯坦被指控X侵未满18岁的女性,19年8月,在曼哈顿监狱中“自杀”身亡。
据报,爱泼斯坦与上流社会的权贵及富豪交往甚密,密友名单包括美国总统特朗普、前总统克林顿夫妇以及英国王子安德鲁。
可参考纪录片:《杰弗里·爱泼斯坦:肮脏的财富》
安德鲁和爱泼斯坦长子查尔斯1981年7月与戴安娜结婚,定居在海格洛夫庄园(Highgrove),距离卡米拉的住处车程只有15分钟。
女王前来时,戴安娜已怀有身孕不愿离开卧房。
1982年6月21日,戴安娜于晚上21时在伦敦圣玛丽医院生下威廉王子。
卧床的戴安娜查尔斯是真心喜欢园艺,女王又一次展现吐槽小能手。
查尔斯说不喜欢直线,女王说你这游泳池子不是直线嘛。
查尔斯说一切都要有机,女王说那你这网球场也是有机的?
查尔斯开始自我陶醉的念白时,女王开始走神说不如早点吃饭吧。
这里一定要看老戏骨Olivia Colman的表演,真得笑死。
之后吃饭时对查尔斯也进行了训斥。
全片印象最深的是女王和安妮公主的谈话,明明是一个站在顶端的家庭,快乐还是那么难得。
女王的zz理念和育儿哲学都差不多第五集 Fagan 费根1. 私闯王宫这集编剧是Jonathan Wilson和Peter Mogrgan,不得不说,编剧太会“以小见大”了,同时在真实事件虚构情节反而更为突显现实。
英国编剧Peter Mogrgan有人私闯女王住宅是真,两人谈话为假。
可正是这虚构的聊天内容,反而道出当时普遍和底层民众的处境和心声。
麦克费根1982年7月的一个清晨,麦克费根(Michael Fagan)闯入了白金汉宫女王的卧室。
早在同年6月,他就私闯过王宫,不过当时惊扰了一个女员工,在警卫来之前跑掉了。
麦克费根被送往了精神病院接受治疗剧集中的的对话纯属虚构,女王看到他后只说了一句“你在这里做什么”就跑掉了。
In a 2012 interview, Fagan told The Independent that the Queen was wearing a knee-length Liberty print nightdress in a double bed and said to him: “Wawrt are you doing here?!'" before running out of the room to get help.
麦克费根仍然在世,前段时间得了新Guan2. 当时背景1982年4月2日,马尔维纳斯群岛战争,简称马岛战争(福克兰群岛战争)爆发。
4月中下旬,南乔治亚岛(South Georgia Islands)被英方夺回。
6月14日,阿根廷驻军司令梅南德兹少将向英国皇家海军陆战队的摩尔少将投降。
英军在六月二十日重夺南乔治亚与南三明治群岛并接受当地阿根廷军队的献降;马岛战争参战双方正式停火。
长达七十四天的马岛战争共有死亡数字255名英军、649名阿军、3名福克兰居民。
英国zf已下令有关福克兰战争的机密资料将在2082年解封。
阿根廷的战败导致了更大规模的反zf运动,最后导致军zf倒台。
对于英国来说,强烈的爱国主义情绪横扫全国,加强了以首相撒切尔夫人为首的zf的权威,同时帮助保守党赢得了1983年的普选。
(来源:百度百科)
首相前去敬礼而非女王尽管最终撒切尔的强势手段治愈了“英国病”,即反复发作的高通胀,可同时也影响到了民众的生活,这是为其带来坏名声的原因之一。
货币主义(Monetarism),又称货币学派,是1960年代形成的经济学流派,以挑战凯恩斯主义的面貌出现。
货币主义在提出之初并不受重视,直到撒切尔夫人在英国采用货币主义政策,使英国经济成功复苏,货币主义政策开始受到各国重视。
(来源:维基百科)
在其执政初期,失业人数达到三百万人,底层民众的生活愈发困难。
而正是在这种情景下,费根才会前去私闯王宫,借编剧之口讲出社会现状。
撒切尔信奉货币主义理论,上台后就进行大刀阔斧的改革。
她主要采取四项措施,一是私有化,二是控制货币,三是削减福利开支,四是打击工会力量。
她为了减少通货膨胀实行紧缩政策,使得商业损失和破产均有增加。
(来源:百度百科)
《王冠》第四季分集简介-第1-2集《王冠》第四季分集简介-第3集世纪婚礼《王冠》第四季分集简介-第6-8集《王冠》第四季分集简介-第9-10集
原文链接The fourth season of The Crown stretches from May 1979, when Margaret Thatcher is elected Britain’s first female prime minister, to Christmas 1990, shortly after she has been drummed out of office. Peter Morgan, the show’s creator, tells us: “We do our very, very best to get it right, but sometimes I have to conflate [incidents] . . . You sometimes have to forsake accuracy, but you must never forsake truth.” The forsaking of the truth, the perverting and twisting of known facts, is what has always concerned me throughout the four seasons of this series. It is about real people, often put into fictional situations.The main protagonists in season four are Thatcher and the Prince and Princess of Wales, clashed against some of the other characters from season three and earlier. This creates a new problem for anyone watching it since in both these relationships there are numerous contradictions, there has been much side-taking and it is possible to slant things in a variety of different ways. Nevertheless, even having taken that into consideration, there are established truths and untruths. My conclusion on this series is that it is yet more subtly divisive than earlier seasons. Pretty much every character is dislikeable. The Queen is portrayed as glum and schoolmistressly — quite unlike the real Queen. The Queen Mother is given some truly horrible lines; Princess Margaret is downright rude; Thatcher buttoned up. Diana is the heroine of this series, largely portrayed — in my view often unfairly — as the victim of a heartless family.Episode 1Did Lord Mountbatten write Prince Charles a letter urging him to settle down, on the day he set out for his ill-fated boating expedition at Mullaghmore?❌ FALSEThe Crown shows Lord Mountbatten on holiday at Classiebawn Castle, Co Sligo, on the morning of August 27, 1979, about to set off on a fishing trip with his daughter and other members of his family. He writes Prince Charles a letter urging him to find “some sweet and innocent, well-tempered girl with no past” to settle down with, and to do his duty. In reality, he wrote no such letter that day.He did, however, write to Prince Charles on many other occasions offering him advice, and many similar letters exist. Mountbatten was by no means a good influence. He urged Prince Charles to “sow his wild oats” before finding the unsullied girl. It’s true also that Charles held Mountbatten in high esteem. Mountbatten, it should be noted, was blown up at Mullaghmore by the IRA before Lady Diana Spencer came on the scene.Episode 2Do the Queen and the royal family lay secret protocol traps for hapless visitors to test them when they come and stay at Balmoral? Did they apply this to Thatcher?❌ FALSEThe Queen and the royal family go out of their way to make their guests feel at ease at Balmoral. In real life, Mr and Mrs Thatcher arrived at the castle on Saturday, September 8, 1979, a mere three days after Lord Mountbatten’s ceremonial funeral at Westminster Abbey. No hint of that in this episode of The Crown. It has to be 1979 because clearly they have never been before. But unlike what is shown in The Crown, there was no torturing of Thatcher, no maids being superciliously rude to her, no wrong-footing in silly games, no making her ill at ease for wearing the wrong clothes or shoes, and no, Thatcher did not plead pressure of work in London and leave early.In The Crown Diana too is invited to Balmoral to be checked out and succeeds and passes the tests, which Thatcher failed. Diana’s visit was, in fact, a year later, in 1980, and at a time when the Queen was not there.Was Thatcher berated by Princess Margaret for sitting in Queen Victoria’s chair at Balmoral — a chair in which no one must sit?✅ PARTLY TRUEA scene shows Thatcher retreating from a stalking expedition and working at a desk, where Princess Margaret strays across her. She berates her for sitting in Queen Victoria’s chair. It is true that there is a chair at Balmoral that no one should sit in — a winged armchair that was indeed Queen Victoria’s. It is in one of the drawing rooms, and about ten years ago the Queen had it moved to a place where people would not easily reach it. Queen Victoria was very tiny, so had Thatcher used it at her desk her chin would have been where her elbows should have been.Episode 3Was Thatcher out of place when staying at Balmoral?✅ TRUEThatcher was not particularly interested in country pursuits, but she went to Balmoral quite happily for the traditional stay by the prime minister in the late summer of each year. After the first Balmoral visit in 1979 her husband, Denis, wrote a letter, later quoted by their daughter, Carol: “There was a house party and some of the people who’d been shooting didn’t come in until later and then there were more drinks — because they’re very generous with drink — and then we went in for dinner. In their language it’s probably very informal but nevertheless you’re on tiptoe. There’s the usual sort of after-dinner conversation over coffee and then the Queen withdraws fairly early . . .”Did Prince Philip summon Prince Charles to the hanging room at Balmoral to command him to marry Diana?❌ FALSEThe Crown suggests that Prince Philip carpeted Prince Charles after the visit Diana supposedly made there in 1979. Presumably the film-makers chose the hanging room, where they skin the wildlife, to emphasise the idea of lambs to the slaughter. No, Prince Philip did not arrange such an encounter. The truth is that Diana began to be pursued by the press in the autumn of 1980, when the media got a hint that she might be Prince Charles’s future bride. She ran the gauntlet of photographers every time she left her flat in Coleherne Court, Earls Court.Aware of this, Prince Philip wrote to Prince Charles either late in 1980 or maybe early in 1981. Jonathan Dimbleby wrote in his authorised biography of “an intervention from the Duke of Edinburgh”, which had “a powerful if not a decisive impact”. The letter warned Prince Charles that he should decide one way or the other because he was risking damaging Diana’s reputation. Prince Charles interpreted this as “an ultimatum”, which was not the original intent. Thus, in a “confused and anxious state of mind”, the prince went ahead and proposed to Diana in early February 1981.Did Prince Charles really leave for Highgrove immediately after his engagement was announced, the presumption being that he would be seeing Camilla Parker Bowles, who lived near by?❌ FALSEThe Crown depicts those famous embarrassing lines by Prince Charles in the engagement interview at Buckingham Palace: “Whatever love means.” In real life Diana laughed nervously. In The Crown she looks cross. They have Prince Charles departing immediately afterwards for Highgrove, his Gloucestershire home, by implication to see Camilla. In fact, Charles and Diana dined with the Queen Mother at Clarence House that evening, which was also where Diana was staying.In this episode of The Crown, having seen Camilla, Charles then flies off — the very next day — on his official Antipodean tour. No. The engagement was announced on February 24, 1981. He flew to New Zealand on March 29, more than a month later, then on to Australia, Venezuela and the United States.Were the royal family beastly to Diana after her engagement, accusing her of not knowing to whom she should curtsey and making a clumsy entry into their midst?❌ FALSEWe see Diana arriving at Buckingham Palace and coming into a room filled with the royal family and bungling the curtseys. Princess Margaret tears a strip off her and they appear to mock her. This is spiteful rubbish. Diana had been brought up in the shadow of Sandringham, at Park House. Her two grandmothers and four great-aunts were in the Queen Mother’s household. Her father had been equerry to the Queen on the 1953-54 Commonwealth tour. She knew precisely what to do.Was Diana really clueless about royal protocol?❌ FALSEWe see Diana being instructed in many royal customs by her grandmother, Ruth, Lady Fermoy. Lady Fermoy is portrayed as a harridan. In real life she was much gentler (at least on the surface). Not only did Diana not need instruction in that way, but the nonsense the screen version Ruth Fermoy tells her granddaughter is risible. HRHs do not curtsey to each other. There is only one Page of the Backstairs etc.Diana did get advice about her new role from the four men in Prince Charles’s private office — Edward Adeane, Francis Cornish, Michael Colborne and Oliver Everett. Later in life she liked to claim that she was given no help.Was Diana cooped up in Buckingham Palace during the months before the wedding?✅ TRUEIn The Crown we see Diana dancing alone to her Walkman, rollerskating in the state rooms and confronted with trolley-loads of flowers and letters from the public. It’s here we first see her bulimia. As soon as she was engaged, the real Diana left her flat in Earls Court, first went to Clarence House, then moved to Buckingham Palace a few days later. She lived there for about five months until her marriage in July.The palace is more of a huge office/Edwardian hotel than a cosy home, and it is understandable that she felt gloomy there. The contrast to her life with her flatmates and this new life must have been sharp. One of the pages, working there at the time and looking after her, used to go out and buy her takeaways. So the loneliness and isolation portrayed in The Crown is accurate. It is also true that Diana did not see Prince Charles much before the wedding. She called him “Sir” until the day he proposed.Did Camilla Parker Bowles and Diana have lunch while Prince Charles was away in Australia?✅ TRUEThey did lunch together, according to one of Charles and Diana’s biographers, Sally Bedell Smith. Camilla wished to help her. However, Diana interpreted the motive for the lunch as being to establish that she would be mainly in London, leaving Highgrove and Gloucestershire and hunting as Camilla’s territory.All evidence suggests that whatever he may have wished, Prince Charles was perfectly aware that his relationship with Camilla had to stop when he got engaged, and that this was understood by all concerned. As Dimbleby put it: “Now that he was engaged to be married there was, and there would be, no other woman in his life.” Diana went into St Paul’s Cathedral for her wedding with her head down, and came out with her head up. She was now his wife, and genuinely hoped she could make him happy.Did Prince Charles give Camilla a special bracelet before his and Diana’s wedding?✅ TRUEIn The Crown we see Diana coming across the designs for a bracelet that the Prince of Wales intends to give his mistress shortly before the wedding. It is marked with the initials “F&G”, which Diana told her author, Andrew Morton, she thought stood for “Fred” and “Gladys” — Charles and Camilla’s pet names for each other.In reality, in the run-up to the wedding, the four private secretaries in Prince Charles’s private office became aware that Diana was preoccupied by suspicions concerning the prince’s relationship with Camilla. A bracelet was commissioned as a way of the prince saying goodbye. It had the initials “GF”, which stood for “Girl Friday”. Diana discovered the bracelet. She confronted Prince Charles and was not mollified. Nevertheless, he felt he should hand over the bracelet in person. The Dimbleby-authorised version is that this was the only time he saw Camilla between his engagement and the day of his wedding.Diana later told Morton that photos of Camilla spewed out of her husband’s wallet on their honeymoon. She believed that his relationship with Camilla never ceased. Clearly there were acute differences between the newlyweds right from the start of the marriage. On their honeymoon on Britannia, Diana chatted up the sailors and cooks, and he remained, as he wrote at the time, “hermit-like on the verandah deck, sunk with pure joy into one of Laurens van der Post’s books . . .”Episode 4Did Prince Charles call Camilla every day during the early years of his marriage to Diana?❌ FALSEPrince Charles had virtually no contact with Camilla at all for the first five years. Yet since Andrew Parker Bowles (the husband of Camilla) was commanding officer of the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment from 1981 to 1983, then colonel commanding the Household Cavalry and Silver Stick from 1987 to 1990, there must have been a few formal encounters. Dimbleby dates the resumption of contact between them to 1986, by which time Charles’s marriage had, as he put it, “irretrievably broken down”.Did Mark Thatcher cause a national crisis when he got lost in the desert during a car race? Was he Thatcher’s favourite child?✅ TRUEThe Crown shows Mark Thatcher setting off in the Paris-Dakar car rally in January 1982. We see Thatcher in tears at her audience with the Queen telling her he has gone missing.This did happen. Mark Thatcher got stuck in the Sahara desert in Algeria for four days, and although he was not lost, nobody knew where he was. There were fears that he had been kidnapped. Thatcher was deeply upset and was seen in tears when the press asked her about the disappearance. President Mitterrand of France offered military support. Denis Thatcher was loaned a plane and after a 31-hour search young Mark was located. Denis was none too impressed with his son, not least for the casual response he made to the massive rescue operation.The Crown stresses that Mark was Thatcher’s favourite of her twins. This is confirmed by her daughter, Carol, in the biography she wrote about her father: “The rest of us could relax a little because Mark had hung an ‘occupied’ sign on the family’s ‘embarrassing relative’ slot.”Did Princess Anne resent the popularity of the Princess of Wales, and the lack of publicity she herself got in the media?❌ FALSEThis season implies that Princess Anne minded the easy publicity the Princess of Wales received just for wearing a new outfit, when she was a hard-working member of the royal family who got none. The truth is that Princess Anne did not care one iota about that. She never sought publicity or public approbation, a quality she shared with the Queen and Prince Philip. In fact, the arrival of Diana was liberating for Princess Anne. No longer was she meant to fulfil a role as a romantic, fairytale princess in the eyes of the media — she could be what she naturally was, a successful and highly executive princess.Episode 5How true was the depiction of Michael Fagan, the intruder who found his way into the Queen’s bedroom?✅ TRUEIt was a great shock to the nation to hear, in July 1982, that a man had twice scaled the walls of Buckingham Palace, and that on the second occasion security had been so lax that he had found his way into the Queen’s bedroom. Fortunately he had no malign intent, otherwise it could have been a great deal more serious.We don’t know the Queen’s version, but Fagan has described what happened, and The Crown’s events are close to a faithful representation of what happened — the two break-ins, him drinking the wine and later his confrontation with the Queen. Along with the June 1981 firing of blanks at the Queen in The Mall (an incident ignored by the makers of The Crown), this shows the Queen’s courage and adroit handling of what must have been a terrifying experience.Did Thatcher usurp the Queen’s position by taking the salute at the Falklands victory parade?✅ TRUEIn this episode Thatcher has an audience with the Queen telling her about the successful end of the Falklands conflict, then announces that she is off to attend the victory parade at Mansion House, where she, instead of the Queen, takes the salute. It did not happen exactly like that, of course.Stanley was taken back on June 14, 1982. The parade actually took place in London several months later, on October 12. However, Thatcher did attend, while the Queen did not, because she was on a tour of the South Pacific at the time. There were definitely hints in the media at the time that Thatcher was becoming presidential in her approach.Episode 6The Prince and Princess of Wales went on a tour of Australia and New Zealand in March 1983. Did Diana throw a tantrum and demand to change all the tour plans so as not to be separated from baby Prince William?❌ FALSEIt was a new idea for the Waleses to bring baby William with them on tour. Diana did not wish to be separated from her son, born the previous summer. But, no, the tour was not rearranged. In order that they could be with William, the outgoing Australian prime minister, Malcolm Fraser (who lost the election just before the visit), asked a well-known philanthropist, Gordon Darling, to lend them his sheep station, Woomargama, which was situated between Sydney and Melbourne and close to Canberra (by Australian standards). Albury airport was near by and they were able to fly everywhere, returning each night to be with the baby.They took about 27 flights during their visit. The Waleses stayed at Woomargama from March 20 to April 17 and they had an entourage of 23 British staff travelling with them, including a private chef. Those staff who stayed at Woomargama made a significant dent in Darling’s cellar.Did Prince Charles feel overshadowed by Diana on that trip?✅ PARTLY TRUEThis was one of the early examples of “Di-mania”, but since the Waleses were getting along well and the trip was considered a great success, the prince was more concerned as to how it would affect her. She was partly elated and partly exhausted. He wrote that she was a great support to him at times when he felt gloomy.There was certainly a part of him that did not like being upstaged by his wife. At this time his annoyance was matched by his pride in her, but it is true that later on he came to resent how people were only interested in her clothes, and thus did not listen to his speeches.Did Bob Hawke, the republican prime minister of Australia, refer to the Queen as “a pig in twin set and pearls in charge of a herd of prime beef cattle”?❌ FALSEIn The Crown Bob Hawke is portrayed as a rabid republican, hoping a visit by an out-of-touch and unremarkable Prince Charles would lead to the removal of the monarch as head of state of Australia. His plans are thwarted by the public’s thrall in Princess Diana.Yes, Hawke was an avowed republican, but there was no appetite for change to a republic in 1983. Hawke got on well with the Queen due to a shared interest in racing. He would never have referred to Prince Charles as a “jug-eared bonehead”, nor made jokes at a press conference: “You wouldn’t put a pig in charge of a herd of prime beef cattle — even if it did look good in a twin set and pearls.”Episode 7Did the Queen sideline Princess Margaret when Prince Edward came of age?❌ FALSEIn The Crown we see the Queen and her private secretary, Sir Martin Charteris, informing Princess Margaret that Prince Edward has come of age and she would no longer be eligible to serve as a Counsellor of State. To explain — six Counsellors of State are appointed to act on her behalf while the monarch is abroad (or incapacitated). Only two of them actually act — and they do so in tandem.While it is true that from March 1985 Princess Margaret could no longer be a Counsellor of State (which did disappoint her because she had enjoyed doing it), it made absolutely no difference to her other royal duties. This episode exaggerates this to imply that Princess Margaret’s role as a working member of the royal family had come to an end.Another point — Sir Martin retired in 1977 and became provost of Eton. But he stays on right through season four. By 1990 he would have been 77, but his actor does not age. He remains as youthful as ever — looking about 45.Were the Queen’s cousins put away in a state lunatic asylum to save the monarchy?❌ FALSEThis has no basis in truth. In this episode Princess Margaret visits a therapist due to her “sidelining” and is told of the existence of her two cousins shut away in Earlswood mental hospital. In real life she took no interest in them.Next they have the Queen Mother telling Princess Margaret that these girls had to be shut away because had it been known that they existed, it would have had serious consequences for the monarchy after the abdication. The implication is that the world may have feared that a strain of lunacy had entered the family.The reality was that these two girls and three cousins had inherited a defective gene from the Trefusis family from which all five descended through their mothers. Nerissa and Katherine were the daughters of Fenella Trefusis, who married the Queen Mother’s brother, Jock Bowes Lyon, so this had nothing to do with the Queen Mother’s bloodline.Episode 8Did Thatcher defy the Queen’s wishes for sanctions to be imposed on South Africa?✅ TRUEIn 1985 48 countries of the Commonwealth wanted to impose sanctions on South Africa, but Thatcher did not wish to do so. As head of the Commonwealth, the Queen was inclined to support the 48. In this episode they concentrate on the differences between the sovereign and the British prime minister. On this there were obvious differences.The Queen was dedicated to the Commonwealth, one of the most important missions of her reign. Thatcher was not keen on it, and preferred to focus on good relations with the United States. On this issue Thatcher saw no merit in sanctions, believing that they hardened opposition rather than reduced it. The episode ends with one of the explanatory captions they sometimes employ — Nelson Mandela ending apartheid and crediting sanctions with making that possible.Did the Queen wish the world to know that she thought Thatcher was “uncaring”, and was she therefore responsible for placing a story in The Sunday Times expressing this?❌ FALSEHere they paint the Queen’s press secretary, Michael Shea, as an honourable man who would never betray the Queen or in any way impugn her political impartiality. In this episode, set in July 1986, the Queen tells Shea that just for once she wants her views known. Therefore, unwillingly apparently, he talks to journalists and the story breaks in The Sunday Times with the (real) headline. “Queen Dismayed by ‘Uncaring’ Thatcher”. The ensuing furore is such that Sir Martin Charteris (who in real life had long retired, remember) sacrifices Shea, telling him to resign and take the blame because a scalp is needed to divert the media from the Queen.The reverse was the case. Shea took it upon himself to talk to The Sunday Times. He then denied that he had done so, and when finally forced to own up, stated that he had been misrepresented. The Palace got rid of him by securing him a job with Hanson plc. What Shea had done was to relay his personal dislike of Thatcher’s policies to the world.The story of Shea has been exposed by many distinguished authors, not least Charles Moore in his authorised biography of Margaret Thatcher.Episode 9Was Prince Charles irritated by Diana’s surprise dance with Wayne Sleep at Covent Garden in 1985, which she intended as his 37th birthday gift?✅ TRUEThere was a private gala at Covent Garden in December 1985 (for some reason they say November, and no it wasn’t for his birthday) and at a certain point Diana slipped away and suddenly appeared on stage with Wayne Sleep and danced to Billy Joel’s Uptown Girl. This was meant to be a gift to her husband, but he took it amiss (an incident omitted from Dimbleby’s authorised biography). Sleep got the impression that Prince Charles was somewhat put out, instead of touched. In this episode Charles berates Diana with some ferocity.Did the tragic avalanche in Klosters in 1988 in which Hugh Lindsay was killed impact on the Waleses’ marriage to the point that Charles decided that he had to get out of it while Diana was determined that it should continue?❌ FALSEOn a holiday in Klosters, Prince Charles, Hugh Lindsay (an equerry to the Queen and his friend), a respected guide and Patty Palmer-Tomkinson went skiing off-piste. They encountered an avalanche in which Major Lindsay lost his life. According to this episode, the tragedy inspires Prince Charles to the conclusion that he wants to get out of his marriage and unite with Camilla, even though she is still married. Meanwhile, Diana declares that Charles’s near death makes her realise how much she would have missed him, so she declares that she wants to make it work.There is mention of the affair she had with James Hewitt and they suggest that she has dropped him. In fact, it wasn’t until 1992 that Prince Charles considered separation. And in real life the Princess of Wales blamed Prince Charles for this accident by taking Lindsay off-piste. She refused ever to return to Klosters and was dismayed that he did.Were Charles and Camilla meeting regularly at Highgrove by 1988?✅ TRUEAccording to the evidence, Charles and Camilla were seeing each other again by 1986. This series takes the Diana line that Charles and Camilla were in touch all the way through the marriage. Viewers should be cautious to accept this without question. They will see an angry Prince Charles, sometimes yelling at his wife, aggressive and demeaning to her. What is largely omitted is any account of Diana’s well-documented distressing behaviour, including tantrums and insecurities. The Crown clearly presents a one-sided portrait of the marriage.Were there several meetings between the Queen and the Waleses to discuss the crumbling marriage?❌ FALSEVarious meetings are shown in which the Queen discusses the predicament in which the Waleses found themselves and tells them to pull themselves together. In reality these did not take place. Until Prince Charles realised that Diana had been directly involved in the publication of Morton’s book, Diana – Her True Story, in the summer of 1992, he maintained a façade, and the hope that there was a way for the marriage to continue in some way or another.The Dimbleby line on this was that the royal family were aware of “the princess’s distress”, but did not wish to interfere. So there was no summit meeting with the Queen, Prince Philip and the Waleses until June 1992.Episode 10Did Thatcher try to get the Queen to dissolve parliament to save her skin at the time of the leadership crisis in 1990?❌ FALSEOf course Thatcher did no such thing. It is well known that when Geoffrey Howe resigned and delivered his devastating resignation piece (faithfully shown by The Crown), Thatcher faced a challenge to her leadership from Michael Heseltine. The outfall for that is well shown — the meetings with ministers, her gradual realisation that she must go, but then they introduce this nonsense.In The Crown they have her telling Denis that she has one card up her sleeve. So she goes to see the Queen and asks her to dissolve parliament and therefore call a general election. Theoretically she could have done that, and technically the Queen could refuse. But it never happened, nor would it have done.Was the Queen angry when Thatcher was ousted by her ministers in 1990?✅ TRUEThere is a genuinely moving scene in The Crown in which the Queen summons Thatcher to see her, and she presents her with the Order of Merit. I remember being told at the time that the Queen was not pleased by the way they got rid of Thatcher. So the line “I was shocked by the way in which you were forced to leave office” is spot-on. People have persisted in thinking the Queen and Thatcher did not get on. The Order of Merit is in her personal gift, as is clearly explained here, and her gift of it is evidence of her respect for her first female prime minister. Thatcher was surprised and delighted to be offered it.If further evidence is required, the Queen appointed her a Lady Companion of the Order of the Garter in 1995 — again her personal gift. She attended her 70th and 80th birthday parties and was present at her funeral in St Paul’s Cathedral in 2013. The only other prime minister whose funeral the Queen has attended was that of Sir Winston Churchill in 1965.Did Prince Philip try to comfort Diana during a miserable Christmas at Sandringham, then threaten her that it “wouldn’t end well” if she left her marriage?❌ FALSEIt is true that by 1990 Sandringham Christmases were something of a strain for Diana, but she was there to be with her boys. In this episode Prince Philip visits her in her room for a comforting conversation. She tells him that if Prince Charles and the royal family can’t give her the love and security she deserves, then she will have no option but to break away officially. He advises her not to with the ominous words: “Let’s just say — I can’t see it ending well for you.” To which she responds: “I hope that isn’t a threat, sir.”In truth, the real Prince Philip did intervene to help Diana, but not until the summer of 1992, when the royal marriage became a crisis after Morton’s book. There was an exchange of letters between them. He did everything he could to find a way to keep the marriage intact. There was not a hint of a threat in any of them (I have read them).The Queen is shown in several episodes in a magnificent uniform for various Birthday Parades (Trooping the Colour). Did they get that right?❌ FALSEIn the opening sequence of The Crown the Queen is shown in the uniform of colonel-in-chief, Grenadier Guards — a grenade on the collar, a white plume in her cap and buttons in ones. She wears the Garter riband and star. It pops up in several episodes.The first trooping portrayed was June 1979, when it was the colour of the Scots Guards being trooped, so they have dressed her in the wrong uniform — it should have been a thistle on the collar, no plume, and buttons in threes. When the Scots Guards colour is trooped, she wears the dark green riband and star of the Thistle. At the 1979 trooping Prince Philip also wore the green Thistle riband. In The Crown he wears the Garter.At the 1982 trooping the Queen is shown riding along as a grenadier again, so a grenade on the collar, and buttons in ones. But this time they give her the plume of the Welsh Guards (white/green/white). It should have been a Coldstream Guards uniform, a Garter star on the collar, a red plume and buttons in twos. With their massive budget and their various advisers, the film-makers could so easily have tweaked these and got them right.In real life the Queen had five separate Guards uniforms, one for each of the five regiments of which she was colonel-in-chief — Grenadier, Coldstream, Scots, Irish and Welsh (in that order).
来到第四季,真心觉得这是目前到4季以来我个人最喜欢的。
个人感官上,这一季在平静的剧情中增加了更多的戏剧冲突,通过女王、撒切尔夫人、戴妃三个女人在这一个混乱的时代因为各自的原因对立,无论是家庭、王室形象、政治立场、地位与阶级,在几乎每一个点上女王都棋逢对手,在这样平静的叙述下,王室的故事放在历史洪流中,显出了强烈的宿命悲剧感。
Netflix在这个系列中对王室和君主制一直秉持着批判的态度,这个态度在这一季到达顶峰,通过女王、撒切尔夫人、戴妃三个人的对立强烈阐述这个观点。
女王一开始是欣赏撒切尔夫人的,通过撒切尔夫人自己的视角和后期她不肯签字的那一集加深了很多两人之间的立场不同,我觉得这里是要表达两个人之间天然的地位和出身导致完全的对立,撒切尔夫人出身平民,对于贵族、上层这一类的人天然有种不信任和反抗,而女王在任经过了那么多位首相,她对于这位平民出身靠智力和打拼走到领导位置的女人有种欣赏和好奇,但也不太理解这位铁娘子本身的视野和格局。
女王这个职位是一个系统产物,她常说君主制是这个国家的灵魂,她对于不管是殖民地还是本国都有一种在血液里的保护,而君主不参政这个原则又让她本能性地疏离国民,这个职位让她必须秉持平静甚至冷酷,从第三集煤矿事故能看出,也可能她本人多多少少有一点情绪不外露的性格,也或者是君主制本身对于她的影响。
印象最深的莫过于第五集,闯入白金汉宫的底层平民和女王的这一段对话,现在看起来仍然很有意思。
女王说: Joblessness, recession, crises, war. All these things have a way of correcting themselves. Countries bounce back. People do. 她把自己始终放在一个上帝视角,这个用词 – correcting,用得很妙,潜台词是我知道现在情况很糟糕,但总会过去,总有修正的时候,一切都会过去。
女王明白自己不能带入过多的个人视角,她的眼睛需要像上帝一样姚望整个国家而不是一些个人,Correcting这个词,已经是她能想到的最极限贴近这些个人悲惨命运的用词了。
费根接着说:That's what I thought. That I'd bounce back. And then I didn't. First the work dried up, then my confidence dried up. Then…the love in my wife's eyes dried up. And then you begin to wonder, you know, where's it gone? Not just your confidence or your happiness, but your… They say that I have mental health problems now. I don't. I'm just poor." 我觉得这一段话背后的含义不用再细讲了,I’m just poor这一句话足以表达所有。
这一段台词也很有意思,费根说撒切尔夫人-"And she spends that money on an unnecessary war and declares the feel-good factor is back again. In the meantime, all the things that really make us feel good, the right to work, the right to be ill…the right to be old, the right to be fragile, be human, mmm, gone. 王冠这部剧,大多数时候讲王室个人,讲时局动荡和时代变迁,但在这一集里把国家和人民放到了台面上,这三个人处在三个不同的位置,他们共同串起了大英帝国的命运,每个人视角上的决策都没有错,或许应该说我们不应该在此处定调对错,但每个人似乎都失去了对于命运的掌控权。
这个系统就是这么运转的,小到个人、大到君主,最后对这个系统都是无奈的。
这一季的另一个人,穿插在君主和首相之间不同立场的剧情中的,是戴妃的出现,一个纯真浪漫且充满爱的角色,对婚姻无限向往。
我整体看下来觉得更多的是,戴安娜和查尔斯完全的性格上的不合适不对付,两个人在喜好、人生观就完全不在一个频道上,即便是普通家庭也一样会矛盾频频。
这样的基础下,加上王室这个系统对于两个人的要求,加速促进了这段婚姻的消亡,从算是互相有一点喜欢(本剧中我没太看出两个人在前期很相爱)到后面的两看相厌,关系完全对立只用了很短的一段时间,当然查尔斯本身爱而不得的心态我感觉也占了很大一部分原因,他天然对戴安娜这个人的耐心和爱是很少的,白月光威力太大,后来人都拼不过。
圣诞节家宴上,菲利普最后和戴妃的谈话,非常残酷的点出了事实 – 戴安娜应该收起本心,个人家庭的幸福无关重要,王室家庭的美满幸福才是他们所要提供给民众的,所以与其无望地求爱,不如看清楚她真正需要效忠的核心人物到到底是谁。
这个家庭中的每一个人都或多或少地奉献了自己,戴安娜不应该自私地索取这个家庭、这个丈夫给不了她的东西。
季末,相比之前的三季,每一季都以女王的镜头结束,这一季最后的镜头给了戴妃,预示着王室后面的故事,戴妃将会是一个很重要的角色。
关于戴妃的感想,等看完下一季再来写吧。
本季是王室成员和首相被黑的最惨的一季,可能是暗合当下的困局对这一政治制度本身的思考和反讽吧。
铁娘子代表了帝国最后的一段辉煌晚霞,除了马尔维纳斯群岛
还有在南非问题上的坚持,40多年过去了,解除了隔离的南非从世界人均GDP第五的发达国家沦为了如今这操性,大萧条的当下和热血澎湃的80年代,
寻找小糖人 (2012)9.22012 / 英国 芬兰 瑞典 / 纪录片 音乐 传记 / 马利克·本德杰鲁 / 西斯托·罗德里格兹 Steve Rowland迫使我们对“政治正确”四个字必须做更深刻的理解,恰巧此刻的2021,人类再一次站在“政治正确or not”的十字路口,不过历史和政治只会以它固有的模式发展和演进,越来越趋遵循人性之弱的水往低处流,从来不刻意追寻所谓的“正确”,黑命贵也好metoo也罢显而易见是一种廉价的政治正确,可它们是为了政治利益而冲顶热搜的正确,看看一年多来在灯塔国发生的一切,也许民主本身正在走向尽头。
互联网使人性发生了异变,变得更懦弱和愚蠢了,更爱牢骚满腹的抱怨和过多的自我怜悯,就像最后一集菲利普亲王、伊丽莎白二世对查尔斯和戴安娜的斥责,更易激动更易被洗脑,党同伐异,瞬间热泪盈眶瞬间热血沸腾,独立思考从一项人性最基本的能力变成了稀缺的品质,现而今竟然连对独立思考的容忍和包容都收缩到了极限,即便是在所谓自由的民主世界;或者,人性本身没有异变,只是互联网使过去没有机会发声的懦弱和愚蠢的人类获得了过去他们从未真正掌握的政治权利和表演舞台。
那可就更悲哀了,这说明民主从它诞生的那一天就并非真正的民主,并将随着它走向越来越真正意义上的民主而崩溃。
伊丽莎白二世充当民主吉祥物执政的70年,正好完整见证了这一人类历史上的伟大兴衰。
完整的再一次回顾这整整四季《王冠》,我感觉更像是一部恢弘的名著了,就私体验而言,我觉得很像我同样喜欢的《金瓶梅》,从上到下数十个人物里,没一个好人,菲利普亲王的自恋毒舌和跋扈,撒切尔夫人的专横、偏心眼和自私,玛格丽特的荒诞和迷失,查尔斯的愚蠢懦弱猥琐,安妮的易怒,戴安娜的虚荣……简直集齐了七宗罪了,最好笑的 favourites 那集,最后伊丽莎白不得不跟丈夫感叹,咱俩怎么就生下了这么四个玩意儿!
可是,我们再抛开这些所有的头衔,他们又都是无比可爱可怜可悲悯可欣赏的普通人,他们的奋力追索,恐惧迷失,尊严与责任,贪婪和欲望虽然看上去那么的矫情和活该,可本质上都跟我们每个人一样。
更厉害的是,在看他们的人生的时候你丝毫感觉不到,也不介意那些人性之恶,并且能为他们动容和共情,这也是金瓶梅的伟大之处,若干年后再回首,BBC的这部旷世奇作也许会拥有同样卓绝的地位。
除了政治和人性,这一季讲的主题是爱情与婚姻,撕去那些头衔和爆炸新闻、报纸头条,原来这小俩口的困惑竟然和我家楼上每天吵架每天和好又注定会分开的俩口子一样啊,在那两集中,菲利普亲王,安妮公主和女王奉献了几段经典的对白,简直就是对普通婚姻的警世恒言,振聋发聩,有意思极了。
期待伊丽莎白二世还能继续待机下去,期待BBC继续拍下去。
以下都是个人的看法,欢迎来喷第四季的一大焦点无疑是如何处理戴安娜王妃事件,我觉得编剧处理的很好,甚至有些偏戴安娜王妃。
即便戴安娜过世已经这么久了,我还是会称呼她为戴安娜王妃。
记得戴安娜王妃过世时,我还在上小学。
并不清楚她是谁,当时的英语老师是个狄更斯迷,也算是个英国通吧,当然比还是小孩子的我们要通很多。
记得有两周的英语课都在讲戴安娜王妃的生平,为其鸣不平。
其善良,魅力,优雅深深植入人心了。
当时各种阴谋论,渣男论甚嚣尘上,几乎成了主流。
当二十来年后,看到这一季,也因为生活的历练,有了一番对戴安娜王妃的际遇翻天覆地的看法。
要先说造成戴安娜王妃不幸结局的,我觉得主要是女王,舆论,查尔斯和戴安娜王妃自己。
影响占比也是女王<舆论<查尔斯<戴安娜王妃先说说女王,女王陛下估计是,把当下所有国家元首政客都算上,最值得尊重的人了。
其中有很冷血的一幕,就是澳洲之行后戴安娜王妃找女王哭诉查尔斯对自己的不忠甚至侮辱。
而女王的反应是,是不是你戴安娜有些逾制了,请允许我使用这个词。
这让我联想到上一季,女王平息蒙巴顿勋爵政变时,当面对勋爵勋爵的问题,“如果我的国家正在被政府往错误的道路上带,我们还能视而不理么”,女王的回答,堪称最大的政治智慧,“我们王室能做的就是什么都不做,等选举它的人民再把它选下去”。
让人想到先秦时代的老庄政治哲学,相比以无为求有为的老子思想,无疑女王的思想更趋近以无为求无为的庄子。
这就导致女王几乎在public事物上几乎不能有任何表态,同时女王也是一个有情绪障碍人格的人,作为一个人格统一的人,无疑对内对外的事物上的态度上都要保持相对一致。
作为人,在对人对事上不可能没有偏重,如果想一碗水端平,那就是在不触犯原则的情况下,啥都不做,少做少错,不做不错。
有一幕女王和爱丁堡公爵谈论谁是自己最爱的孩子,女王竟然想不出谁是自己最喜欢的孩子,可见无为的意识已经深入血液了。
这也导致女王认为在戴安娜王妃的事情上,没有做任何干涉,认为其应该站好自己的位置,承担自己的责任插一嘴,如果你是个有过多年婚姻经历的人,你应该会感触良多。
爱丁堡公爵和女王对婚姻的处理,堪称教科书式的,松弛有度,女王也是以无为的方式处理的,有机会可以展开来说。
所以说由于女王的伟大,什么都不做无疑给了无助的戴安娜王妃很大的打击。
再说说舆论上,当时可以说一边倒的支持戴安娜王妃,可是这与宫廷的规矩和运作是格格不入的。
可以说舆论越支持,可能越导致戴安娜王妃最终的不行,因为当时的舆论力量不比今天,还不足以完全影响宫廷的运转的制度。
作用力越大反作用力就越大,就越使戴安娜王妃远离王室。
再说说当事人之一,查尔斯吧当我看到成年查尔斯的演员时,我觉得,这个剧选角简直绝了,那种优柔寡断,多愁善感,脆弱,没勇气,智慧善良,都从演员的脸上展现出来了,几乎不用演。
如果倒回20年,最适合演查尔斯的,我觉得,可能就是老友记里的Ross了,哈哈
碰巧ross也是一生只爱一个这选角堪比马景涛饰演张无忌。
查尔斯是个渣男么?
我觉得不完全算,只能算是个优柔寡断,拎不清的人。
一生只喜欢卡米拉,说实话,到现在我都没法理解卡米拉哪儿优秀。
哈哈,可能这就是爱吧。
但限于王室的规矩,只能造就几个家庭的不幸。
就是因为他的软弱。
其实有时候,处理关系问题可能比处理国家事物更棘手。
我是觉得剧集中,应该是比较偏袒戴安娜王妃了,这也无可厚非。
毕竟死者为大,不幸的婚姻,双方都是有责任的,而且他们的结合不仅仅是为了婚姻。
最后说说戴安娜王妃,我觉得可以类比一下爱丁堡公爵,年轻时的菲利普也曾苦恼,挣扎。
埋怨自己的婚姻,自己的妻子,女王不能像对待丈夫般的对待自己。
但最后公爵明白了,也许是屈服了,认清了自己的位置,你的工作就是保护女王。
戴安娜王妃也有类似的问题,但不同的是,相比她的公公婆婆,戴安娜王妃相较之下,比查尔斯强势太多了,政治能力也强太多了,这和容易造成“逾制”的危机。
她们既是夫妇,也是君臣。
我记得女王在他们成婚前的一大担忧就是,“她太年轻了”。
年轻的不足以handle自己的位置,即使聪明如戴安娜王妃。
但另一面,她无能的丈夫似乎很能拎的清自己的位置。
为什么说戴安娜王妃自己有最大的责任造成自己的不幸?
有句老话,“道儿都是自己走的”。
活在王室,不可能你既享有荣誉和资源,还能向往自由,追求人性的美好。
正应了我最喜欢的政治人物之一,撒切尔夫人说的,“他们既不高雅,也不高贵”。
翻译成人话就是,王室就不是人能呆的,完全是一群妖怪。
其实自打戴安娜王妃走进王宫那一天,就注定了悲剧。
其实这一季的情节大家都很熟悉,毕竟离我们很近,历史课角度其实能学的不多。
我反而对这几位大人物处理家庭,儿女事物的情节,台词设计,演员表演都特别考究,真实。
再大的人物,处理家务事时也是满头的问好,没有什么神秘的。
还有就是姑娘们想要幸福的生活,尽量远离所谓上流社会,真不是人呆的,哈哈😄
第三集 Fairytale 童话故事这一集完全聚焦在世纪婚礼上。
世纪婚礼1980年,查尔斯王子(1948-)向戴安娜(1961-1997)求婚成功,真是不知为何一开始这对会被视为天作之合,两者明明差了13岁。
求婚成功戴安娜和查尔斯王子于1977年中一个派对中认识,之前查尔斯王子曾与戴安娜的姐姐(Sarah Spencer)交往过。
剧中是查尔斯前去会见戴安娜姐姐无意撞见的。
剧中的小戴安娜1981年7月29日,33岁的查尔斯王子和年仅20岁的戴安娜的世纪婚礼于圣保罗座堂举行,共有2650位宾客被邀,共十亿人收看了电视直播。
戴安娜盛装打扮,她婚纱的尾部共8米长。
长达8米的裙子戴安娜的珠宝现在都传到了儿媳的手中。
戴安娜的锡兰蓝宝石戒指至于戴安娜为何如此备受爱戴,私以为一开始可能就是所谓的“民众缘”,就像是有的演员天生有观众缘,有的人天生有人缘招人爱,她的相貌和气质让她格外有吸引力就是招人喜爱;一是她不是循规蹈矩的王室成员,有着很强的自我个性,这一点上有点像格外有“人味”的玛格丽特公主,看她接受媒体采访就能发现,甚至太过坦诚和真实到和王室格格不入;
玛格丽特公主劝阻这场婚姻还有就是她致力于公共服务,服务于慈善事业;最后是她身上的悲剧色彩,求爱而不得,红颜最终薄命。
戴安娜分居后接受采访戴安娜的血统,经历和样貌,都可为合适的王妃人选。
正如剧中菲利普所说,等戴安娜更为年长些,会更出众,更自信,而查尔斯也会渐渐爱上她。
剧中菲利普和戴安娜之间倒是更来电哪怕爱情无法滋生,查尔斯便是在两边摇摆。
王室只想着劝查尔斯接受,没想到戴安娜无法像其他贵族女子一样对此“识大体”地睁一只眼闭一只眼。
王太后表示“两边兼顾”实属正常王室讲究的大局为重,查尔斯的怯懦与优柔,卡米拉的精明,也有戴安娜自身的天真,造就了一出悲剧,戴安娜太看重“爱”,没有她想要的”爱“她不愿意在这三个人的婚姻中扮演下去所谓该有的“王室成员”的角色。
戴安娜王妃王室本身就是讲究秩序而维护王冠,当你在王冠之下,你就要按着规则行事,为此戒掉情绪失去自我,而保证王冠稳定,这并无对错之分,只是选择不同。
就像是第三季讲到的两者对比,肆意有趣的以individualism为代表的玛格丽特公主,沉稳内敛不表露情绪甚至无趣的女王。
女王和妹妹而查尔斯自身本是怯懦,但他还都想要。
要么就一心为爱,铁了心和卡米拉在一起,大不了效仿不爱江山只爱美人的爱德华八世,曾为了辛普森夫人而退位;要么就履行职责,选择合适的王妃,为自己将来成为国王而稳定下来,和卡米拉一刀两断。
辛普森夫人和温莎公爵查尔斯和卡米拉的确是默契的一对,当初直接在一起就好了,也省得祸害旁人。
卡米拉和查尔斯而他在这个摇摆中,受伤的只有年轻的戴安娜王妃。
卡米拉太过精明,她本身就年长查尔斯一岁,她不会完全以“爱情”为重,更不会任人摆布。
果真被nanny带大的英国绅士们都好找年长型。
2005年,他如愿娶到了卡米拉,而戴安娜的生命停留在了36岁。
《王冠》第四季分集简介-第1-2集《王冠》第四季分集简介-第4-5集马岛战争《王冠》第四季分集简介-第6-8集《王冠》第四季分集简介-第9-10集
从编剧的角度,在一些场景中,出现了巨大的失真,但是也能理解,毕竟把十年装进10集,还要体现故事的连贯性,这是超人的任务。
但是尤其是撒切尔夫人在庄园受到的待遇怎么想都太离谱了。
对话设计上也过于简单,代表是女王在白金汉宫被入侵后个撒切尔说的话,基本等于重复左派和右派价值观,等等抛开这些不谈,看故事和设计也足够有意思了,也普及了英国历史。
从人生的角度看撒切尔夫人是真正的赢家,虽然11年执政被党内逼宫,但是新保守主义今天阴魂不散(左派看来,换句话说这工党真废物),和丈夫一辈子亲密无间,真正留下了自己的遗产。
或许编剧怕变成对卡米拉的控诉,让戴安娜先说自己是“country girl”又讨厌乡村生活。
但是遇见这窝囊废,她又能怎么办呢。
反观女王,家里就没有什么婚姻幸福的人。
一天到晚好像离个婚能导致宗教改革一样。
我看这一家子每一个看重婚姻啊。
更吊诡的是,既然不在意,强迫他们结婚干什么?
好家伙,根本一家子混蛋,空食汉禄,尸位素餐,屁事不干。
还一天到晚国家挂在嘴边,没见过这么不要脸的。
更可怕的是未来的英国国王还是个变态,这想想都让人害怕。
好家伙,写着写着我就生气了,这边建议是guillotine杀头+共和制一条龙服务呢。
我爱Emma Corrin像男孩子的所有瞬间
引用剧中撒切尔夫人:“他们既不高贵,也不优雅。”(顺便查尔斯真的是一个人渣。)
没头没尾啊,就这么结束了,只能等下一季
看了第二集觉得撒切尔夫人和黛安娜的转场很有深意,一个没过test坚持自己,一个过了test但终身被困
哇,好一片跪舔的气息
不喜欢这个演员演的撒切尔。查尔斯真的太渣太渣了!戴安娜好可怜。
女主演技不行,演戴安娜的这个演员演技是很好的...世界予她以伤害,她回报世界以爱...皇室从来都是丑陋嘴脸横行的象征...
看的这季,主要讲戴安娜。跟看八卦一样看的。不知水分多少
英国王室的存在也就在于给平凡的人几秒钟的幻想吧,瞧瞧短评一堆精神王室人。每次看到女王和她身边的人说duty就想翻白眼,第八集撒切尔夫人把女王怼地哑口无言真是大快人心。其实剧还是制作精良的,但是选角看到第四季还是不适应。女王看上去像刻薄的后妈,玛格丽特公主像乡下中年妇女、臃肿土气,女王的妈简直就是村口看八卦唠嗑的大妈。我知道一堆人要闭着眼张口就是奥斯卡影后,那又如何?
撒切尔夫人演得真尴尬😅
第四季完全是黛安娜撑着我过来的,结果还没有结果
本季两大对手戏:查尔斯VS戴安娜,女王VS撒切尔夫人
最有意思的部分是对撒切尔夫人的刻画,女王虽然与她政见不合,但当她被迫下台后,依然邀请她入宫,表达“女人对女人”的敬意,用君主的绝对权威给予对方表彰。至于戴安娜,小时候只看得到她的美丽和不幸,后者也是为了突出前者而存在的。但现在来看,会觉得她的境遇何尝不是在男权社会中挣扎的女性缩影。
总觉得这个戏是借了个王室故事的壳子,抒发世间小妇人情怀的那点事,审美和讲故事的方法以及价值观都非常的简奥斯丁。尤其这季,讲女人们的理智和情感(谁会比撒切尔夫人和戴安娜更适合做理智和情感的代言人呢,尤其第二集),以及她们的理智和情感在刚好对撞上权力的时候,她们的或主动或无奈的选择。许多平行蒙太奇的方法和音乐的加入都非常娴熟,娴熟到有点匠气和油腻了,人物特点也过分提纯了,提纯到很刻板。然而偏偏就是很好看,通俗又加了一点小妇人式的思考,各种层面的简奥斯丁式的好看。
一直以为,看王冠这种剧,就是看看华服珠宝,看看俊男靓女演王室八卦,再加一点小儿科权谋用以标榜自己看的是“正剧”。没想到有大批人拥护剧中那套“王室价值观”——我锦衣华服压榨百姓但这是为了给百姓奋斗的目标,我情人无数夜夜笙歌但是我被爱判处终生孤寂,我没用没文化还啥也不干这是无为而治……给早就该被淘汰的“王冠”下各种可笑的定义,真有人被骗啊。更可笑的是总有人科普英国上流社会如何如何,就是说,跟你有半毛钱关系吗?社会主义铁蹄还没把这些人踏醒。
我服了到第四季我是算明白了这一家人真的太惨太恶心太离谱了
3.9 只被戴安娜支线吸引,剧情方面也是这条支线最流畅。女王和玛格丽特换角后本人一直在出戏。第一二季的选角现在回头看,真的是最佳。
三个女性共同组成这一季的王权观察团,是看得最拧巴的一季,写女性还是徒有其表。不过比上一季稀烂的写法,编剧功力稍有恢复,从一开始就下定决心把戴妃的悲剧全部归罪于王室的冷漠和功利,家庭戏令观影不适达到了极点。奥康纳这么可爱,人渣戏演得入心入肺,可他这么可爱,多少还是一种洗白。撒切尔夫人线颇为浪费,叙事虎头蛇尾,没有清晰地展现她的改革脉络和成果,而且这个角色的毒舌过于直白了,“他们既不高贵,也不优雅。”这一季可以说彻底把整个剧对王室的态度翻了一张脸,遮羞布盖不住了。
王室的迂腐冰冷做作一览无余
查尔斯塞钱了?